Ahmed Deedat. Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen. On the subject of crucifixion, the Muslim is told in no uncertain terms, in the Holy Qur’an, the last and final. Through Gospel accounts of the crucifixion, Shaikh Ahmad Deedat exposes the fallacy of the crucifixion. Shabir Ally gives his conjectures and speculations as to why he believes Jesus did not die on the cross.

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Islam and the Crucifixion of Jesus |

According to Alexander Metherell an M. The Islamic orthodoxy today will have us believe that this is a prophecy about a literal quest that will be undertaken to break all crosses. It is of fundamental importance to the theology of most contemporary Christians. In the following I shall deal with them separately. Crucifixiln, Tabari at least mentions the chain of the narrators through whom he narrates the historical events, a process which enables scholars to examine and verify the authenticity of the narrations.

The Gospel of Peter was eventually branded as heretical, if for no other reason, because it seemed to deny the suffering of Jesus on the cross.

One piece of analysis done by Holger Kersten, along with his co—author Elmar R. According to Metherell, hypovolemic shock:.

The disciples’ lives were completely changed by their absolutely certainty that they had seen Jesus die and that they had seen Him alive again afterward, and no one else in the crowds that had also witnessed the events could refute them. Evidence from the Babylonian Talmud There are only a few clear references to Jesus in the Babylonian Talmud, a collection of Jewish rabbinical writings compiled between approximately A. Therefore, the resurrection appearances in 1 Corinthians 15 provide strong evidence that Jesus really died by crucifixion.

E 2 The Gospel of Peter was eventually branded as heretical, if for no other reason, because it seemed to deny the suffering of Jesus on the cross. Therefore, given the above specific medical evidence, the Journal of the American Medical Association is justified to conclude:. The gospel of Peter was used by the church at Rhossus and often quoted by Christian writers during the latter part of the second century.


You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum. Failure of Alternate Theories to the Crucifixion In conclusion, alternative theories of what happened to Jesus simply do not adequately account for the above evidence.

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The Only Miracle Promised. Ahmed Deedat The late Ahmed Deedat wrote a book entitled, Crucifixion or Cruci—fiction, in which he argued in favour of the view that Jesus as did not die upon the cross, but survived the Crucifixion. Legs not broken – as a fulfilment of prophecy. In addition to the cruicfiction evidence for the historicity of the gospel accounts, there is evidence from early Christian creeds which are located in various places in the New Testament including Luke Evidence from Pliny the Younger Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan.

A Refutation of Ahmed Deedat’s Crucifixion Or Cruci-fiction

Thus, crucifixion does not necessarily guarantee crucitiction death of a victim. The explanation of what this prophecy actually means and alludes to has been crucufiction to us in detail by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as and the ongoing fulfilment of this prophecy has been seen in our very lifetimes. He comments on the Resurrection by stating it: In addition to this Deedat also includes a unique collection of stories from the media of people having had resurrection-like experiences:.

He was the Christ. Bible1 Corinthians The viewpoint of the Israelites at the time of Jesus as was straightforward; had he been put to death on the cross and successfully executed by the Romans, his messianic claims had come to nought.

On the third day he appeared This lifting of darkness and confusion around the position of Jesus as is summarised by the Promised Messiah as stating in his book Jesus in India:. On the one hand, this idea is held to only by the heretical Ahmadiyya sect crucifictiom Islam and is denounced by all true Christians and Muslims.


When we combine rcucifixion statements with Josephus’ vrucifiction reference to Jesus as “the so-called Christ,” a rather detailed picture emerges which harmonizes quite well with the biblical record. Tacitus and Josephus say this occurred under Pontius Pilate.

According with the teachings of Paul not Prophet Jesus without crucifixion, resurrection of Jesus becomes irrelevant and without resurrection Christianity itself is rendered meaningless. Which means the person should have to die on the cross.

Crucifixion or Crucifiction? James White and Ayoob Karim Debate Ahmed Deedat’s Famous Presentation

Nearly every single word in the above Ayah contains an emphasis on the issue. However, the hypothesis that Jesus never really died on the cross does not account for this phenomenon. Islam and the Crucifixion of Jesus by Ryan Turner The Muslim religion is one of the fastest growing religions of the world, if not the fastest.

The Only Sales-Point Chapter 2: The Romans knew how to kill someone, and they knew when someone was dead. Concerning this, Matherell states that hypovolemic shock causes a rapid heart beat which results in fluid around the heart called a pericardial effusion. We’ll assume you’re ok with this.

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Undoubtedly, there has never been any claim for the resurrection of Prophet John in this world after his death. Pilate finds Jesus not guilty! And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve. The only alternative was to ascribe them to sorcery! Of course, there are many ancient Christian sources crucifictoin information about Jesus as well.

The late Ahmed Deedat wrote a book entitled, Crucifixion or Cruci—fiction, in which he argued in favour of the view that Jesus as did not die upon the cross, but survived the Crucifixion.